tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21629015.post7464477165988778788..comments2024-03-04T12:44:00.261+00:00Comments on Debi Alper: 'Degrading and inhumane' - the UK asylum systemDebihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09600815804658702077noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21629015.post-84004329562989798082007-11-22T10:47:00.000+00:002007-11-22T10:47:00.000+00:00Thanks, Jamie. I feel a new post coming on ...Thanks, Jamie. I feel a new post coming on ...Debihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09600815804658702077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21629015.post-51376822618418091292007-11-21T22:25:00.000+00:002007-11-21T22:25:00.000+00:00Sorry to take so long to check up on your blog aga...Sorry to take so long to check up on your blog again Debi, and thank you for giving more people an opportunity to discuss this issue.<BR/><BR/>If you check out paih wordpress this week - http://paihnews.wordpress.com - you will find how one particular little girl has been treated by the Home Office.<BR/><BR/>Take care, JamieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21629015.post-85156191224737878332007-08-28T12:54:00.000+00:002007-08-28T12:54:00.000+00:00Jamie - thank you so much for your thoughtful cont...Jamie - thank you so much for your thoughtful contribution to this debate. <BR/><BR/>I will return to this subject as soon as I can find the time but meanwhile your comments are much appreciated.Debihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09600815804658702077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21629015.post-89056764276678124052007-08-10T12:56:00.000+00:002007-08-10T12:56:00.000+00:00DBA Lehane, there are many flaws in the asylum sys...DBA Lehane, there are many flaws in the asylum system that is 'degrading and inhumane' to many African single mothers, most of whom escaping torture, rape etc who usually have a few hours to tell their whole story to, in many cases, a male Immigration officer and a male Interpreter; <BR/><BR/>Unaccompanied Minors - I have only ever come across one young guy who presented himself as an Unaccompanied Minor. The young man told the Home Office that he was 15 Years old and they questioned his age, simply because they didn't believe a 15 year old could arrive in the UK alone. They said he must be 18 Years old and refused to support him until he agreed. The young guy had Iraqi documents proving his date of birth and had the characteristics of most 15 year olds I know. Whilst the HO was deciding whether or not to translate his documents, he was simply left with no food, money or shelter. A number of charitable organisations supported him. The dilemma the organisations faced was that they believed he was under 16, and should they allow him to live with someone who had not been police checked? Eventually they had no other choice and after few days found a college lecturer who was willing to assist him.<BR/><BR/>2 months on, his documents were finally translated and he was given accommodation to live in.<BR/><BR/>The Home Office’s decision making is extremely poor, with a some families receiving positive decisions after years and years of living without being able to work, being told where to live, having to report like criminals every week to immigration reporting centres, spending time locked up in detention centres, not allowed (until recently in Scotland) to attend University like others, unless they paid overseas student fees, being at the end of many vicious lies and rumours from the media as well as being regarded as ‘scum’ by many UK citizens, politicians and others. <BR/><BR/>In Glasgow, there are 1,100 families who have been refused by the Home Office. 80% of them have lived here for over 5 years. Many have children who have done exceptionally well in school or college, despite the trauma of living with the fear of being detained or deported. Now the new Scottish government has asked for powers to grant these families ILR. If they live in scotland and contribute to scotland, then why won’t an English Government allow it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21629015.post-74250962924372172872007-05-10T11:35:00.000+00:002007-05-10T11:35:00.000+00:00Okay...late coming to this one, and I would have l...Okay...late coming to this one, and I would have let it pass me by but just to point a couple of points:<BR/><BR/>1. When I challenged you originally to back up your arguments...it was simply on the fact that you alleged foreign minors were left to live alone and fend for themselves in the UK. You've never proven this and neither does this report. <BR/><BR/>2. I don't think there is anyone who will accept that the situation if perfect or faultless. But for all the good intentions on the matter, no one has yet come up with a viable workable solution that adequately considers and safeguards BOTH sides of the problem. <BR/><BR/>3. The suggestion that all FAILED Asylum Seekers should be allowed to work and receive benefits is dangerous and absurd to the exteme. Such a measure will attract every economic migrant in the world to target the UK, because, "hey, even if I fail with a bogus claim I can still work and get support". If an asylum application is deemed bogus then the person has no right to be in the UK...why should the taxpayer then support these people?DBA Lehanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12902739256082564278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21629015.post-18701905896337797292007-04-05T10:17:00.000+00:002007-04-05T10:17:00.000+00:00Yeah and it's all done by ours. And all - mostly -...Yeah and it's all done by ours. And all - mostly - out of fear of the whipper-uppers otherwise known as the tabloid press. Shame-making. Thank god for the odd good judge.granny phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10208296185844897146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21629015.post-87967392162886993472007-04-04T12:20:00.000+00:002007-04-04T12:20:00.000+00:00Too true, Mutley. It's also true that there will ...Too true, Mutley. It's also true that there will inevitably be those prepared to exploit the situation for their own profit. <BR/><BR/>The point I've made before (and will continue to do so) is that I'd prefer to risk being exploited by 100 than potentially miss one genuine case ...Debihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09600815804658702077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21629015.post-35996526794030915252007-04-03T17:39:00.000+00:002007-04-03T17:39:00.000+00:00Thank you for this -I heard the story of the Malaw...Thank you for this -I heard the story of the Malawian children being supported by Dr Banardoes - (a hot bed of red radicals hey) - who are threatened with deportation, on Radio 4 this morning. The problem is that they are all individual cases, some good some bad - but no one has the time to hear them..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21629015.post-35277273065456631992007-04-02T08:07:00.000+00:002007-04-02T08:07:00.000+00:00Well fizzzzzz, really.Took a while to read and dig...Well fizzzzzz, really.<BR/><BR/>Took a while to read and digest this Debi. Once again thank you - informative and thought provoking. This really is just the tip of the iceberg, isn't it?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03665385782194826703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21629015.post-67872175440588586472007-04-01T19:35:00.000+00:002007-04-01T19:35:00.000+00:00And your point is???And your point is???Debihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09600815804658702077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21629015.post-77340359309910928782007-03-31T19:50:00.000+00:002007-03-31T19:50:00.000+00:00fizzzzzzzz . . . . . .fizzzzzzzz . . . . . .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com